Marilyn Monroe's Death: Visitor Comments - CoverUps.com
I’ve carefully reviewed the available factual information (autopsy report) and multiple books on the subject of Marilyn’s death. When you read the actual autopsy document, it is very apparent that she did not take the Nembutal by mouth (no gross pill fragments in the stomach, no microscopic crystal residue in gastric or duodenal fluids). The extremely high level of Nembutal found in her blood would have required 50+capsules to have been swallowed, and this large volume always leaves some trace in the stomach.
The report also notes bruising of the colon (ecchymosis), small bruises on her posterior hip and lower back, and dependent livido of her face and chest. Having been found lying face down on the bed explains the dependent livido (pooling of blood) on her face and upper chest. However, for several years I had questions about the colon findings and the small bruised areas on her back and hip.
Finally, I found a book titled “Double Cross,” by Sam Giancanna. This was written by the Chicago mobster’s grandson, who had the same name as his grandfather. In that book, the grandson wrote that his grandfather bragged not only that he had Marilyn Monroe killed, but even told him how he did it. The method he described is the only thing I’ve come across that matches the autopsy report. He explained that at the opportune time (they were bugging her bedroom), his hitmen entered the bedroom where she was lying in bed on her stomach trying to sleep. He said they then held her down and administered a prepared enema containing a massive dose of Nembutal. This explains the findings of colonic bruising due to the sudden forced distention by the enema, and would also explain some bruising as they held her on her stomach to administer the enema. Once enough drug was absorbed so that she stopped struggling, he said they slipped out undetected.
He explained that they did it at just that time, to implicate the Kennedys. He notes Bobby had been back and forth that day to try and calm her down, since he was in the process of breaking off their relationship (It was explained that he had become involved with her to deflect her from the president, and was now trying to extract himself from her). His physical presence the evening of her death, the fact that she was scheduled to hold a press conference on Monday, and the Kennedy’s obvious need to keep the relationships quiet made this the ideal time for her death to cast doubt on the Kennedys. Mr. Giancanna also considered the possibility that she might disclose her mob connections thru her Hollywood friends who set up the meetings with her and the president.
Sam Giancanna had bragged that they set up Marilyn’s relationship with the Kennedys in the first place to ultimately use this as a way to publicly discredit them for “double crossing” them by going after them after they had helped them get elected.
Mr. Giancanna’s book clearly explains the manner of death. This in turn, explains many inconsistencies I’ve read about at the death scene and the behavior of various principals immediately following the discovery of the body. As reported in multiple book sources, Robert Kennedy and her personal physician were notified once the aide found Ms Monroe either dead or dying. All the things I have read about such as moving the body (vain attempt at rescue/resuscitation), staging the body and pill jars (restore what had looked like a suicide scene once it was clear she was dead), searching for documents (remove her personal diary and all connections to president), and the delay of reporting to local police until all this was accomplished, make perfect sense.
I hope this puts this tragic death into perspective for those who have puzzled over this.
Dear sir All by chance I saw your site about Merilyn Monroe. My opinion about her murder is that those who killed her, they murdered also JFK and Robert Kennedy. Any other opinion is schizophrenic. This very beautiful and with the psychology of a joyful child, young lady, had a very unfortunate beginning and end of her life. But, the purpose of life is salvation. So, please, may I ask if anyone has had an indication about her salvation after death? Congratulations that you remember her.
I thank you jim Athens Greece
From John and Njeri....
It is possible that the body they did the autopsy on wasn't really Marilyn . If that is true, then all of this attention on the autopsy and the coroner's report is just to throw everybody off the trail.
She may have been wisked away in the early hours when the ambulance first took her away. Then the ambulance returned several hours later with a different body. A Marilyn impersonator. There was a big cover-up, because Marilyn was supposed to be "Eliminated" and she somehow got away from the people in the ambulance. The cover-up was not just meant to fool the general public, but also the C.I.A., and the F.B.I. and anybody else who wanted her dead.
I am presently working on a story now, based on an experience 22 years ago. About a travelling homeless, paranoid schitzophrenic woman, whom I met while she was hitchiking . She was surprised to learn, by asking a lot of qustions, that I was an actor and my last name is Baker.
She told me that we might be distant relatives . That her Mother told her that she had distant relatives living in Canada. She said that she used to be a famous Movie Star. She told me that she recently got out of an institution where she spent many, many years. When I asked her what her name was, she told me slowly and delibertly that she was Norma Jeane Baker as though she was expecting a rude reaction.
Even if her story proves to be false, she was the most convincing person to ever be able to impersonate Norma Jean Baker and/or Marilyn Monroe ..... She had two distinct personalities.
I am not financially independent, so I haven't been able to make a thorough investigation into who this woman was, where she lived etc. She just claimed that she travels all the time , afraid that "They might find me and finish the job."
It is now 22 years later and I feel that she wanted me to tell her story, eventually . She probably wouldn't be recognizable now as Norma Jeane or Marilyn, if she is even still alive . But, most of the people who were afraid of her "Telling all" are gone now. I wish that I could get some financial backing to investigate the wherabouts of this woman and to track her down again.
If a D.N.A. sample could be obtained from her, it would prove one way or the other whether she was indeed who she claims to be. I have two autographs from her as Marilyn Monroe. I have sent photocopies of them to a handwriting expert in California who said that he would not dismiss them as being authentic, but he couldn't 100 % verify them either.
The Book will be called "Marilyn, Still Abandoned?" ...or something like that.
I think you are all Stupid and should not (make an) ASS U ME you know anything. There was a cover up to protect someone and the KENNEDY'S were NOT responsible for her death just for helping and protecting a poor, Traumatized, Child who was an unwilling victim in all of it! Bobby Kennedy was a Hero to that child, a good man, he cared about the USA and would have surpassed his brother as a great president. He was not Having an Affair with MM! He was a FRIEND! It was a crime of PASSION not committed by either Kennedy brother! It is also only one person's business and that person is not you!
Can we use some common sense?
If Marilyn Monroe had a child, the child would likely come forth. He/she would take a DNA test which would match Berniece Miracle's and now we have something.
If Marilyn Monroe was murdered, I am sure the son/daughter would want to know, too.
Also, if the child wanted to know if he/she was a Kennedy, then again, the DNA would show if another Kennedy allowed samples of his/her own.
Then, we can go from there.
Back in 2003, Larry King had a 41 year anniversay of Marilyn Monroe's death, guests included her first husband, Jimmie Dougherty. He was 21 when he married his 16-year-old neighbor, Norma Jean Baker, in 1942. Jeanne Carmen, Marilyn's closest friend in Hollywood, Mickey Rooney, who co-starred with Marilyn in one of her earliest films, 1950' "The Fireball," Cyd Charisse, the brilliant, beautiful dancer who co-starred in Marilyn's unfinished final film, 1962's "Something's Got to Give," and columnist and author James Bacon, first reporter on the scene when Marilyn's body was found, and so close to Marilyn, he was once her lover.
King went on to ask Cameron Do you buy any of the rumors that they were somehow associated with her passing?
She replied yes, with King wanting to know what she thought. She then replied Well, I really can't say what I think, because Peter Lawford told me the story, and I believed him, even though he was drunk as a skunk. Johnny Roselli told me the same story. I had to leave town for 18 years, you know.
Larry King responded by saying "But they're all, they're all dead now." With Cameron responding "They are all dead, but they didn't." King asked her "Do you think it was a suicide?" She replied "No. Absolutely, positively not.."
Finally King asked You think she was -- John, James? with a response from James Bacon.
In closing I find it very interesting that Peter Lawford told the whole thing to Jeanne Carmen, wouldn't you?
I heard the rumor, "the person who killed Marylin Monroe is on the ward" & I was like I know alot about Marylin, who is it?
An anonymous chart was Eunice Murray's only clue she was there as a patient. I went in to see her------she looked just like she did in the books about Marylin, she was older but not sick.
She saw me & said "My dear if you're going to have a date with the president, you will have to have three gowns made" and she gathered up the fabric of my own clothes when she said this!!!!!!
Very shortly after a nursing assistant came in like gang busters and said "who are you--what are you doing here? no visitors allowed!!" and kicked me out.
I asked her how do I meet Eunice Murray on the legit & she said I had to call and ask permission of the family------------which I did. I sais she looked healthy, she was in good health when I saw her.
TWO WEEKS LATER I CALLED BACK, SHE WAS DEAD. WHO KILLED MARYLIN MONROE? WHO KILLED EUNICE MURRAY? EUNICE WAS THERE THE NIGHT MARYLIN GOT THE LETHAL INJECTION---AND WHO EVER PUT EUNICE IN THE STATE RUN NURSING HOME POSADA DEL SOL IN TUCSON ARIZONA.
AS ANONYMOUS MUST HAVE BEEN HIDING THE TRUTH---TWO WEEKS LATER EUNICE MURRAY WAS REUNITED WITH OUR MARYLIN, TO FIND OUT WHAT IT WAS LIKE TO BE STUBBED OUT LIKE SIR ELTON JOHN'S SONG TO MARYLIN, THE CANDLE IN THE WIND.
I KNOW MARYLIN WAS WACKED. EUNICE MURRAY WAS A LIVING TESTIMONY & THEY PUT HER IN A PREMATURE GRAVE TOO.
From Victoria, U.S.A.
There's no doubt in my book that Marilyn was murdered.
If 911 was called immediately, instead of that plotting Dr., Marilyn might be alive today.
That stupid housekeeper should be burned in oil for destruction of the evidence. She obviously did it to accept hush money.
And why oh why wasn't any of these plotting murderers investigated by the FBI? Not even the Kennedys were questioned. The police hushed it all up as well and allowed evidence to be taken from the house.
Poor Marilyn. I hope all involved get their comeuppance.
I think that Marilyn died of an accidental overdose.
It is public knowledge that she had made attempts at suicide in the past. I think not actually wanting to die but desperately needing help.
It is also known that she made telephone calls on the night of her death. And that someone alerted her housekeeper to check to see if she was ok. Maybe if her housekeeper had checked thoroughly instead of a brief glance in to her bedroom she may have been saved.
The only cover-up that i think took place was the exact time of death & the death scene.
I think Marilyn died a lot earlier than we think. But we were given a later time so that a "Hollywood" style death could be created. Naked on bed, phone in one hand, empty pill bottle in other etc etc. When in reality i think it would have looked a lot different to that.
However these are just my views.
The only true FACT i have is that a very beautiful, talented woman died a very lonely & sad death. Much earlier than it should have been.
I am sure that if she had never been in Hollywood & had remained as Norma Jean she would have probably lived to a very old age surrounded by a huge family who loved her dearly. But if that had been the case millions of people wouldn't have ever known her. We would never have had a Marilyn.
DR. GREENSPAN I HOPE YOU ROT IN HELL!!! YOU HAD NO RIGHT TO KILL THIS WOMAN ON ROBERT KENNEDY'S, JOHN KENNEDY'S OR ANYONE ELSES ORDERS.
DEAR GOD JUST HOW FAR WILL YOU PEOPLE GO!!!! THE KENNEDY BROTHERS KILLED MARILYN MONROE!!! MONEY WILL BUY ANYTHING!!!!! EVEN THE HUMAN SOUL.
I dont think, I am SURE that she was murdered!
She had it all, wealth, fame, fortune, beauty. Why would she kill herself? SHE WOUDLNT!
The Kennedy's had a WHOLE lot to do with her murder. They were a big part in her murder. And because of it, that's why ALL the Kennedy's are cursed. They ALL die one by one. And they deserve it for doing what they did to our great and beautiful LOVED Marilyn. They took her from us.
But she will always live in my heart, thoghts and soul.
Til we meet in heaven Marilyn. Rest In Peace Norma Jean * Marilyn Monroe
Someone got it right.
Marilyn was told of the existence of captured ufos by JFK. JFK was the last president to be told about the ufos and Jack actually saw at least one live alien. MM wanted to expose just that to the public. She made it clear that was what she wanted to tell the world ... not the sordid stuff. So did JFK later who made it clear about a month before his assassination. The ufos and aliens are no secret to the millions who've investigated this further ... there's testimony from about 400 top military and corporate folks documented so far. Look it up.
Anyway, after JFK, no other presidents nor congressional folks were allowed to delve into the subject. This is where our Black Budget goes. Nixon knew because he was in on the action as VP under Eisenhower. And yes, Jackie Gleason was taken to a base in Florida late one night after golf by none other than Richard Nixon, his friend. Jackie made no secret that he himself saw the dead alien corpse. Gleason was one of the most informed novices on ufos ... an amazing well read man.
Truman was the first to find out about this huge secret but appointed the military to 'handle' it all. Ike was blown away by it all and warned us if you recall. JFK called for two things that ended his life ... an immediate admission of the ufos and the aliens to the public and to stop dealing with the private banking outfit ... the Federal Reserve. JFK had non Fed notes printed that were United States Notes ... I have several myself.
These three were not the only ones to be snuffed over this all important topic ... just the most famous.
Signed Dan S.
A hyperdermic needle in the armpit will leave no noticable needle marks.
Not surrounded by shaving rash. Rik
It was definatly a cover-up.
I agree with the Hall story, that Dr. Greenson jamed the needle through her heart and instantly killed her. The problem is the only way to prove this is to exhume her body and look at her heart. many people do not agree with my wanting to exhume her body, but it is not fair to her to be labeled probable suicide when most of the world completely disagrees.
If any of you agree with me, or have a nother theory and want the investigation to be reopened send your letter as a concerned citizen to:
The Investigation Team - The Marilyn Files
P.O.Box #93058, Hollywood, CA 90093-0058
I believe everyone deserves to rest in piece and Marilyn CAN'T until the truth comes out.
To whom it may concern; What follows is the account of an afterlife communication I personally witnessed involving a qualified medium. I will not post names of those involved as it is extrememely doubtful much if anything could ever be proved now as most of those directly responsible have now passed on themselves. Also there is no aspirations on the part of the medium or others present to write any books, seek publicity nor otherwise profit from this in anyway-in fact it is to the contrary.I am posting this this because I can personally attest to the accuracy and integrity of the medium involved and so I anyway am convinced of its legitimacy and am posting it merely as a possible service to Marilyn followers and on a "you take it for what its worth to you" basis. All that said here it is:
Medium:"Were you murdered"?
Norma Jean:"I took my own life".
Another male voice present with Norma: "she was murdered".
Medium is then made to understand by male presence that though she was in fact in a deep state of depression that night and either threatened suicide(to wrong parties)-or made only a half-hearted attempt as an attention-getting ploy to same parties involved,but that the act would not have been enough to bring about death.Medium explains that afterlife communication is not an exact process and though some clear and direct meanings do come through at least as much -if not more is interpretation on the part of the medium.
At any rate medium is then shown a small room-possibly a motel room though that is not certain-and bottle of medication laying on the bed -near full.
Norma Jean: "I made phone calls that night. I attempted to reach out but noone knew how to help.Then I called the wrong person".
Medium feels certain at this point that attitude and words by N.J.were merely acceptance of at least some of the responsibility (rightly or wrongly) and a desire to neither linger in the past nor harbor negative energy over the past-so as to move forward.This being typical and common with souls on the other side.
However the male presence with her does not seem to totally agree with N.J.as regards much of this and then shows medium a scene involving N.J.laying in a bed groggy and overly medicated and a male figure,dark hair,dressed in a suit,thinning hair and in probably mid to late forties bending over N.J.by side of bed and doing or administering something-but could not see what that was. Male presence then says something to effect of "I should stay out of it and just let her tell it".
At end conclusion of medium was she was in fact either murdered or greatly assisted in furthering her suicide attempt and its successful outcome and on the part-or directed to do so by other parties involved.
One final observatiion also made by medium was that she no longert seems distraught or depressed in any manner and in fact indicated "I'm fine-I'm ok"but thanked parties involved for their concerns. That was pretty much the jist of it-again for what it may be worth.
There are more theories regarding the death of Marilyn Monroe than there are stars on our flag. Some can be discounted because they are obviously from the realm of pure imagination and utterly without any kind of credible evidence. A few theories fit what is known about the circumstances regarding her and her involvement with the Kennedy brothers. From the autopsy performed by the future coroner Dr. Thomas Nogiuchi we know that her stomach contents were empty and her intestinal tract showed no traces of ingested drugs. It is interesting to note that her alimentary canal was discolored which would indicate that there had been some kind of irritant lodged prior to death. So, the means regarding a "fatal enema," does ring with a note of veracity.
There were many irregularities that occured. Firstly, her body was taken directly from her home to the Westwood Village Mortuary.Why the LAPD allowed this has never been adequately explained. In any event, it was a CORONER'S case to begin with. And, the final decision as to cause of death only came after what is known as a "psychiatric autopsy," which raised more questions than it answered. There were numerous witnesses in the neighborhood who were never questioned, and the police investigation was totally inadequate. You would have thought that given her fame a thorough accounting of all events at her home that Saturday would have been accomplished.
I believe that she was murdered and that the cover-up was planned and involved many layers of government. Given this supposition, it explains exactly why and what happened with the shoddy investigation on all levels. Important evidence disappeared and or was destroyed that weekend, the witnesses that were never questioned have long since died, and both of the Kennedy brotherrs were assassinated. Those of us left who remember her and the highly suspcious circumstances of her demise can only wonder what could have been different if she had lived.
THEY DID THE SAME AS DIANA, PRINCESS OF WALES. SHE WAS DANGEROUS FOR THE ROYALTY AND MARYLIN FOR THE BROTHERS KENNEDY.
THEY KILLED THEM IN ORDER TO HIDE HER. I THINK THAT THEY RECIEVE A TERRIBLE PUNISHMENT. DO NOT WORRY MARYLIN.
GOD BLESS YOU ELIZABETH
It's a wonder to me how she died.poor thing was forced down while someone injected her with enema thru her rectum into her stomach. I know this because I always get spirits showing me how they died. always thru meditation...and so...when I happened to meditate on her asking her how she died, she showed me. I felt like I was held down while someone pinned me down, there was two men and a lady standing by...watching me. I could feel something was inserted into me...the thing wouldn't come off me till I had to call out for Jesus Christ to help me. I woke up drenched in sweat.
I know that after what they did to her...they cleaned up the thing and positioned here the way they did so it'd looked like the way it it when the police came in. I hope this would help.... from someone.
I don't think the actual truth of MM's death , whether accidental or murder will ever be resolved. Speculation will go on forever but I prefer to let GOD handle the question as we will never know anything definite.
Ive read 20 books and formed my opinion. Who killed her? R Kennedy and Peter Lawford. Wittnesses saw the two enter and leave her house on the eve of Aug 4th. The actual date of death was the 4th because it happened before midnight. Lawford said he spoke to her and she said to tell Bobby goodbye and the president. And to him too, because he was a nice guy. If this was true, why didn't he go right over?
The coroner said no needle marks. Fine but her colon was all black and discolored. He sent her organs for testing and they were lost? Phone records lost? For one thing, friends report that Marilyn could NOT swallow pills easily. She awlays would open them and mix them in her drink. How with all the supposed pills? With no drinking glass.
The first cop on scene said foul play and he was replaced with another. EVERY PERSON WHO ASKS QUESTIONS ARE FIRED OR REPLACED!!!
Please lets all get together and open this case once and for all! I will not rest until the death certificate is changed to homocide. She has no one to speak for her. US, the people who love Her, we have to be Her voice. Keep asking questions.
Last thing, on Peter Lawford's death bed, he said he knows the truth about Marilyn but he'll never tell .....Come on. Give me a break.
Thank you for reading Sydney of Raleigh NC
everyone knows that she had a thing with the kennedys and it says in many books that i have read about her life that she was having an affair with robert kennedy and at one point even president kennedy. i belive that she knew too much and thats why she was killed. i have read the autopsy report and it says that there was no marks on her body to suggest that she was injected with anything. Dr michael baden a very well known coroner reviewed the case a few years ago and said that he believed that she was killed by a fatal enema (for those who do not know what an enema is, its a medical procedure done so that you can go to the tiolet if you get what i mean) he said that marilyn would of believed that the enema was just like any other enema but it was full of something lethal, thats the only other way that nothing showed up in her stomach and nothing in her bloodstrem or pin marks on her body. i belive and so does many others that she called the doctor out and the doctor that turned up that night to see marilyn either wasnt a real doctor or was but was payed by the kennedys and he administered the fatal enema. thats just my theory but whatever the truth is its got to come out one day and i hope that it does. she did not desrve to die and especially not the way that she did and to try to tarnish her name by saying that it was suicide is an insult to her memory. i belive that the coroner who performed the autopsy was payed off, i believe that the cops at the scene was payed to stage the scene and mess with evidence and anyone at all involved that night were fakes and if any of them are still alive they should tell the truth or at least feel guilty for what they did
I DON'T THINK THAT ANYONE WILL EVER FIGURE OUT WHAT HAPPENED TO HER. AS SHE WILL ALWAYS BE A HOLLYWOOD LEGACY, SHE WILL ALSO REMAIN A MYSTERY. BUT, IF YOU REALLY WANT TO KNOW A THEORY, THIS IS MINE!
THERE'S NO WAY THAT SHE KILLED HERSELF. SHE WAS TOO PISSED OFF AT THE K BOYS TO EVEN RECOGNIZE PITTY. SHE WANTED TO GET BACK AT THEM, AND THEY KNEW IT. SHE WAS LIKE A BROKEN HEARTED SCHOOL GIRL! IMMATURE AND PREDICTABLE. THEY KNEW THIS AND STOPPED IT. THEY WE'RE VERY POWERFUL IN THOSE DAYS, HAD MANY HOOK UPS AND COULD HIDE ANYTHING.
LIKE HER TELEPHONE RECORDS, WHICH MYSTERIOUSLY DISSAPEARED. HMMM...... THE SECRET DIARY..... WHEN SHE PHONED PETER LAWFORD, SHE WAS THREATENING THE KENNEDYS, NOT TELLING THEM BY. SHOOT, EVEN PETER LAWFORD SAID SHE "HAD HER LAST ENIMA".
THEY GOT AWAY WITH IT. ALL THE OTHER WOMEN WE'RE HUSH, HUSH, BUT NOT MARILYN. SHE WAS SMARTER THAN WHAT THEY THOUGHT.
From Jess in Pomona I say the whole suicide thing is bullshit.
She could'nt of swallowed 40 pills without water. And the evidence shows that there was no glass of water beside the bed. When Marilyn died she couldn't of laid there straight.
I say that it was on of the Kennedy's that killed Marilyn because first she sleep with the president then she has an argument with one of the Kennedy's and then she is dead.
When the police were asking questions a lot of the witnesses were changing their stories. That proves that someone killed her.
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From Alex in Boston...
After erading everyones elses thoughts on MM death and various books about it I have a few thoughts to put out there I don't know how to piece them together though:
1. Is there any definate proof she died @ home, because pictures could have been staged.
2. Everyone involved keeps changing their story.
3. Too many people were involved with her on the 4th August for something not to be strange about her death.
4. If you found Marilyn Monroe dead you would ring the Police straight away not wait 5 hours.
5. Her body is too 'straight', it has been arranged in some way by someone.
6. I hope somebody does come forward soon with something true because there have got to be people out there who know what went on on that night.
Rest In Peace Marilyn, your an Idol to many xxx
The Monroe Threat During Monroe's affairs with the Kennedys a detail of information about a secret political partnership between the Kennedys and the former Soviet Union was leaked to the Silver Screen Sex Goddess.
When the KGB learned about Monroe and her awareness of the two administration's secret partnerships, they urged the president's Secret Service to take care of the situation by ending Monroe's life. However, the Secret Service in an attempt to keep things "civil" proposed that instead of plotting Monroe's death, a wire tap should be set up in Monroe's residence to survey the situation. Through secret analysis the Secret Service would determine if Monroe was truly a threat to, as they called it, "national security."
Several months later an impatient KGB threatened to deal with the problem on their own if the Secret Service did not handle the situation, but the Secret Service's loyalty to their commander in chief delayed responses; the KGB stepped in. Unknown to JFK or anyone in his administration, several years earlier the mob had secretly signed a contract with the KGB to allow the mob to operate its business in the former Soviet Union. In exchange the mob would make the Soviet Union its sole partner of imports of illegal drugs and firearms into the United States, along with further subcontracts. The KGB disgusted with the Secret Service's handling of the situation ordered the mob to terminate Monroe's life.
Late on August 4th of 1962, the mob entered Monroe's house and injected her with a deadly dose of a fatal drug. Needless to say, JFK learned about the death immediately and sought out the Secret Service for answers about their failure to prevent such an incident from occurring. JFK never truly desired for such an incident to occur and upon learning about the facts (indeed ALL of the facts; the KGB, the mob ties, etc.) JFK threatened to end the secret relationship between the United States and the Soviet Union's KGB; such an end was believed to be a threat to starting an all out nuclear war.
Even more so, JFK felt insulted that the KGB had private contracts with the mob, who, according to JFK and his campaign trail, was the leading problem with America's organized crime. JFK was determined to end the secret relationship but only at the right time. Unlucky for JFK, he waited too long and the next year the KGB contracted a hired hand to assassinate JFK.
I couldn't have spelled it out more clearly.
From Jennifer of Canada...
Marilyn has been my idol since I was young, I belive that the Kennedy's killed her.
Marilyn know too much and she was about to go public with it all and the Kennedy had to stop that our else their "good" name would be slandered. They couldn't risk that happening so they killed her and made it look like a sucide. Since Robert and John sr, are dead you can not put them on trail for the cold-blooded murder of Marilyn Monroe. Marilyn died at an extremly young age, she will always be remembered for being a very famous actress, I just hope that the original case can be brought up again, so the murders will be named.
I am writing because I have seen a few people asking about the photo of Marilyn after her death.
I came across it accidently,and there is lots of ways to get to it by simply searching google,but let me just say as a true MM fan, it is very difficult to view,it barly looks like her. I was hoping it was a fake its so haunting. so,everyone who is curious who has not seen it,if you really love Marilyn, be warned it's quite hard to look at,I wish I never saw it. and as for how she died,I'm pretty mich with everyone else who loves her...a murder mystery that will hopefully one day be resolved for our beloved Marilyn. I think it was best put "Marilyn Monroe the star was dead, but Marilyn the legend was born" love you always MM.
The first doctor who arrived at Marilyn's home the night of her death had a vial of Brucine Sulfate, he got it from the hospital he worked at through the CIA. It was never turned back in, a report of lost pharmaceuticals was filed 3 months later. This drug can not be traced after 3 hours in the body, it is absorbed and dulited by body fluids. One thing it does do, is kill a person dead. The government (CIA) had been using it for years before Marilyns death.
From Graham in Ireland...
I am currently reading the book The Assassination of Marilyn Monroe" by Donald H Wolfe. Before reading this I had a vague knowledge of the details surrounding Monroe's death. I had always believed she has committed suicide and discounted any conspiracy theories.
However after the first chapter of this book I completely changed my mind. I know believe that Monroe's was killed because of what she had written about the Kennedy's in her Diary.
I am shocked at the level of the cover-up around Monroe's death. Stories were changed and evidence went missing. When official inquests were launched they were either shutdown or the findings were laughable.
I live in Ireland and have little knowledge of the American justice system bar television influence. I am disgusted that any justice system would allow a murder go investigated for so long simply because of pressure from a family such as the Kennedy's. Has the justice system no back bone at all.
This whole fiasco really sheds light on America in general as far as I am concerned. That a population would allow one of its finest children fade into myth is sickening. The American people should have stood up in 1962 and demanded more from there government.
Yours in Sadness,
Graham from Ireland
This is just a small fact. But the whole controversy of her being in the nude is part of the murder. First of all, if I wanted to commit suicide I wouldn't be walking around naked or taking the time to take off my clothes to kill myself. Just to add another degree of embarassment to her name the Kennedy's or someone connected to them stripped her of her clothing to thrust controversy on her nudity rather than have the public focused on the possibility of a murder. Everyone was always saying "She was naked!" they weren't saying "This could've been murder!" Hmmm....interesting theory tidbit?
IN MARILYN'S BOOK THAT SHE USED TO WRITE IN FOR A JOURNAL IT WAS KNOWN TO BOBBY KENNEDY THROUGH SOARSES THAT THEY HAD AN AFFAIR AND WITH THE RISING OF THE MEN POLITICALLY MARILYN BEING ANGRY AT BOBBY NOT RETURNING HER CALLS AFTER SHE BEEN CALLING THE PRESIDENT HE WAS UPSET.
IT WAS COMMUNISM AND THE SEVERITY OF HER ACKNOWLEDGEMENT WITH FRANK SINATRA IN TAHOE WHERE MARILYN AND BOBBY WOULD MEET SCRETLY AS WELL AS STRAUSBERGS HOME VIDEOS OF THE 2 WERE EXPOSED UNKOWINGLY TO BOBBY FROM THE MOB AS WELL AS HIS BROTHER JFK WITH THIS EVIDENCE NOT DETERING THE BROTHER KENNEDYS THE TRAP WAS MARILYN SHE WAS BEING WATCHED BY MOB AND CIA AND WITH HER BEING THE GUINI PIG FOR THE GOVERMENT TO THE KENNEDYS SHE WAS TO GET BOBBY MAD BY SAYING SHE WAS GOING TO BLOW THE LID OFF TOP SECTER INFO CONCERNING THE SOVIETS AND CUBA AS WELL AS THERE RELATIONSHIP BOBBY WAS TO BE SET UP BY THE MOBSTER GIANCCANNA AS WELL AS HUMPFERY WHO COULDNT STAND THE KENNEDYS.
HUBERT HAD GAINED POWER BY USING HIS TACTICS AND USING THEM AGAINST BOBBY BY GIVING HIM A BAD IMAGE HOWEVER UPON THE UNKNOWN ARRIVAL OF BOBBY KENNEDY TO MARILYNS HOME WHERE HE SECRETLY TOOK OFF BY HIS OWN PRIVATE PLANE WHICH ROSELD IS KNOWN TO HAVING SECRET MISSIONS FLEW BOBBT IN TO SEE MARILYN IT WAS AT HER HOME WHERE THEY HAD A CONFRONTATION AND IT WAS WITNESSED BY THE MAID ONE OF THE DRS FOR MARILYN WAS CALLED BY A CIA INFORMANT TO CALL MARILYN AS WELL AS ONE OF HER CLOSE FRIENDS SO THAT IT WOULD SEEM THAT MARILYN WAS GOING CRAZY.
UPON DOING THIS BOBBY TOOK THE BOOK SHE CHERRISHED AND DISCONNECTED THE PHONE LINES AND MADE IT SEEM AS THOUGH SHE HAD BEEN GOING TO BD BY FORCING HER IN HER ROOM AND SPILLING HER PILLS AS HE FORSED HER ON THE BED WITH SECRET SERVICE KNOWING THE EVENTS GOING ON BOBBY LET THE 2 SERVICE MEN OFFICIALS COME IN THE ROOM AND GIVE HER A SHOT TO PUT MARILYN UNDER WHILE SHE PAST OUT THEY INJECTED THE DRUG IN HER ANAL CAVITY FORCING HER TO GO INTO COMMA. THE MAID WAS TOLD TO BE QUIET AND SO WERE THE AMBULANCE DRIVERS ONCE NOTIFIED BY THE CREW. tHERE MARILYNS ENTIRE DEATH WAS FIXED AND MADE TO LOOK LIKE A FIASCO BOBBY AND THE TEAM LEFT FLYING QUICKLY WHILE THE OTHERS STAYD TO FINISH THE MISSION
From misha and margot ...
My friend and i were dicussing what had happened to marilyn monroe and this is what we came up with this is a classic who'd done it for us.
I watched this investagation program on the television on eveing and they were investagating marilnn monroes death and they said the stories that the people gave them were incorrect for...they all had their own twist.we belive that the kennedy brothers had something to do with it, but they didn't act alone, for we also came to the conclusion that the maid ms.murray also had somehting to do with it as well as the doctors and a multitude of people including the government and others. first of all: the story the maid gave to police was.... she went to check in on mm and the door was locked so she tried to open it and couldnt so she got the butler and they got a ladder and propted it against her bedroom window, and broke in with some sort of object but no glass was found inside hte window, usually when you break glass from the outside the glass falls inside the window, but there was no trace of glass. the maid was also found washing sheets in the middle of the night.
Second... her room was extremly tidy and she wouldn't have the time to clean up if she was going to die she wouldn't care obviously if she were to kill herself she wouldn't have the time or state of mind to really make things perfect plus her condition of the body she was found holding a phone which she had talked to on wiht a friend only hours earlier, did she pick up the phone in order to cry for help.?but was stopped by the affects of someone administrating drugs to her.?
Third... the kennedys we belive that they murdered her to cover up or keep their records clean b/c presidents dont liek to have blemishes on their records ex. there has only been one impeachement. have there.?a presidents reputation is everything scandals and "lies" are not welcome and can destroy their career and their stature in society. america saw them as kinda clean cut and didnt want to believe anything esle.so the suicide annoucement was not vquiry very muhc until now. no one wanted to face the facts they wanted to live the dream
Forth... the media didn't; cover the little ddetails that werent fitting together. which is kinda funny for the media seeing as how they stick their noses into everything. one sotory doesnt go untouched what makes this an exception.??was it the government or something higher? that was keeping them in so to speak lockdown.did someone threaten the media or did sopmeone want to keep her murder such a secret they paid them off as well.? i dont know but hopefully all my questions nad theorys are relavant and soon will be anwsered if anyone has any responses or can correct me go ahead and email me email@example.com
I would love to understand one the greatest actresses departure from anyone esles point of view.
misha and margot
From Dallas of Montreal...
well last Wednesday on the discovery channel there was a show called unsolved history and it was all about Marilyn monroe and how and who killed her. i believe that Marilyn was killed by bobby Kennedy and he paid off the cops and the media and all other persons involved in the investigation to shut up about the truth, i love Marilyn and her life will always live in my heart and in my mind.
Dallas from Montreal Quebec Canada.
I think that she was killed, but am not really sure, everyone says that she was happy just hours before her death, but we all know that she has been depressed and suicidal before, her mood could have changed in just seconds, as far as the autopsy report, that does change things, once you are dead you don't continue to digest pills or food for that matter, so where did all the supposed pills go? there has been lots of comments on her colon but there is also this on the report "conjunctivae are markedly congested" also "Respiratory system: The right lung weighs 465 grams and the left 420 grams. Both lungs are moderately congested with some edema. The surface is dark and red with mottling. The posterior portion of the lungs show severe congestion. The tracheobronchial tree contains no aspirated material or blood. Multiple sections of the lungs show congestion and edematous fluid exuding from the cut surface. No consolidation or suppuration is noted. The mucosa of the larynx is grayish white. "Liver temperature taken at 10:30 A.M. registered 89 F.
Now I am not a doctor so I am not really sure what this all means, did she have a cold? or pneumonia?
I would have to say that is sounds funny to me that someone who is fired is still around and just happens to find the person dead who had fired them!!
There is also some who blame her shrink, that he was controlling her, that instead of getting better after seein him, got much worse and that is when she staged her first " suicide attempt" that she was so confused by the things that he was telling her about her past and present.
Bobby? there is the history of the Kennedy boys who can't seem to keep their pants up and of course there is the "incident" with Ted and the bridge, that shows that the damn Kennedy's will do anything to cover up all indiscretions.
I really don't know because I am so unsure of. I only look for real solid evidence, that is the most important thing. Funny how the JFK mistress name Judith who came forward in the trial years ago, and before her death from cancer, she wrote a book that she had a relationship with JFK. She did admitted that. It is the similar situation where she tried to make contact to JFK by phone, but they disconnected her from them as the same way they did to Marilyn Monroe. I think they were using both of these women to get them access to mafia. It seems to be that there is too much connection between JFK and the mafia, especially that goes way back as their father. The only person who was after mafia was the biggest mistake ever made was Bobby kennedy. Later, he was killed in gun shot wound.
As for Marilyn Monroe situation, I am totally a fan of her, but in her situation, I am so unsure of because she takes pills, and some alcohol to ease her pain. She grew up in foster home, so she was used to strangers. She had no real guidens, meaning no one to look after her. I think mafia might have kill her before hand and the kennedys just came might been scare the crap out of themselve, and maybe took all the evidence with them. Still I am not too sure of what actually happens. Remember one "Hill Street Blues" star later admitted that there was a piece of wire hanging over the roof. Marilyn might have been wire tapped by mafia, CIA, or Kennedys, who knows what. Over the wire tap, mafia must have heard her conversation with the reporter to "tell all," to the press. I think they jumped on that to get even with the kennedys. We just need the truely, the real solid evidence on surrounding her death. That would be truly hard to find until the supreme court allow us to see the real file of Marilyn Monroe, which I doubt that they (government) would ever reveal it themselves to public. I think the bottom line that they are too ashame of this like the vietnam war, the silence of agent orange.
I think it is more like the silence of a lamb.
Alex in Boston
From someone, somewhere...
WHO: Marilyn Monroe
WHY: John and Bobby Kennedy because they were afraid that marilyn would go public with their affair.
From someone, somewhere...
i think she had a baby ny jfk, she was going to tell everyone about it to protect her, got murdered and daughter is somewhere fending off lunatic perverts, may i also add,the people involved are leading the world now,theyre all sick heartless child molesting killers the piont being made, if this girl exists all she has to do is prove it with dna.
HI MY NAME IS THELMA. I HAVE LOVED MM SINCE I WAS A LITTLE GIRL.
I REMEMBER WHEN SHE DIED. I WAS 6YO. I WAS GOING TO START 1ST GRADE. I REMEMBER MY MOM AND DAD WHERE WATCHING THE 10PM NEWS. I REMEMBERING HEARING THE NEWS CASTER SAYING THAT MARILYN MONROE DEAD AT 32YO OF DRUG OVER DOSE. I REMEMBER FEELING SAD. AND I DIDNT KNOW HER BUT I FELT LIKE I DID.
I HAVE READ NUMEROUS BOOKS ON HER. I JUST LOVE HER. SHE IS MY IDOL. SHE WENT THRU HELL AND BACK. WHEN SHE WAS A BABY TO AN ADULT. HOW SAD HER LIFE WAS. I BELIEVE SHE WAS MURDERED, BY THE KENNEDY'S. I DONT THINK THEY PERSONALLY KILLED HER, BUT I BELIEVE LIKE EVERYONE HERE HAS SAID THEY HAD SOMEONE KILL HER.AND YOU KNOW WHAT IS SO SAD. THIS WOMAN HAD FEELINGS FOR THESE A-WHOLES!!! AND LOOK WHAT HAPPENED TO HER FOR HAVING FEELINGS. SHE WAS ALWAYS TAKEN FOR GRANTED.
LOOK AT JOE D. I'M TRULY CONVINCED HE LOVED HER. AND I FEEL LIKE HE HAD SOMETHING TO DO WITH THE KENNEDY'S DEATHS. I DONT KNOW WHY. BUT THATS HOW I FEEL. HE WAS ITALIAN. HE HAD CONNECTIONS WITH THE MOB. AND IF HE DID. I'M AM GLAD, AND HAPPY. AND I'M GLAD JOE DIMAGGIO SNUBBED THE KENNEDYS, AT HER FUNERAL, AND BARRED THEM!!!! AND ANOTHER THING WHAT ABOUT PETER LAWFORD. I KNOW HE HAD TO TELL HIS WIFE. THE KENNEDYS SISTER, WHAT HAPPENED. YOU CANT SAY HE NEVER DID. SO THERE ARE QUITE A FEW KENNEDY'S THAT KNOW THE TRUTH. SO WHY DONT YOU ALL JUST FISS UP. YOU HAD MARILYN MONROE MURDERED.
ALL I HAVE TO SAY, IS I HOPE IT COME OUT. THE TRUTH OF HER DEATH. MARILYN MAY YOU REST IN PEACE, AND BE HAPPY NOW THAT YOUR AN ANGEL.
YOU WILL ALWAYS BE LOVED. A FAN.
From Rocker of the USA...
The baby sounds plausible...but couldn't she not get pregnant prior to this? After many attempts? Anyway, Marilyn knew the government was after her, she knew she was to be killed. Something was going to be announced...I don't know what. --Rocker, USA
From Heather Monroe...
I know she was murdered. What do you need to prove a murder??? You need a motive, a method, and a body.
The motive had to do with Sam Giancana connected with the Kennedy brothers to obtain votes from Virginia. Their father was VERY oppossed to any mob affilliation, as was Bobby. I think Bobby protests tooo much about the mafia, which causes suspision in my mind. Marilyn knew all of this, and this is why she associated with Frank Sinatra, because he put the whole deal together. So they hired good ole Dr. Greenson, who hired Eunice. Marilyn DID have enema's administered by the good doctor as well as by Eunice, only usually they are not Nembutal enemas. I think Marilyn took her normal dose of pills, recieved her enema, and that is the method.
The body was staged. Eunice was doing laundry when the police arrived. Odd, because Marilyn had no use for clean bed sheets at this point. But, her conspirators did. When a person O.D.'s on these meds, they tend to convulse, vomit, and when they die, the bladder and bowels empty automatically, that would be the smoking gun to find fecal matter mixed with whatever was left of the enema messed all over the sheets.
Also, in the autopsy reports, there is made mention of a discolored and congested colon. Those are the facts...but lets face it; the Kennedy's are too rich and wise to kill someone themselves. They also underestimated Marilyn's intelligence. She would not be so stupid as to spill the beans on the president of the United States. She wanted to be taken seriously, and known for her talent. Not for being the Kennedy's whore.
And Joe was soo upset over her death, that I wouldnt be surprised if he didnt hire some one to whack both of those Kennedy boys.
From the Andréanne...
I read this most amazing book, which I forget the name. But it is clear that she was murdered by the CIA for the kennedys because she knew too much... She kept this little red book in which she wrote all her conversation with the kennedys so she cool look smarter too them. Also it is believed that both her physician and her psychiatrist were communist spies, but that is a rumor. As for the pills she took, they would of left a yellow trace in her stomach, and she would of vomited, like the previous time she tried to kill herself and did not succeed.
So it does not make sense that her stomach was empty and that there was no sign of vomiting anywhere. Also it was said that there was an injection given to her around ten-ish when robert kennedy was there, to "calm her down". And the dose of medecine found in her blood would equal to 40-80 pills, yet there was no sign of them anywhere in her digestive system. Odd, I think not, because that little red book disapeared for a while too, and she died just when she decided to put the kennedys in her past and start over, and when she said she was going to expose them to the press... well I think the book was called Marylin Monroe: Investigation of a murder... something like that. It's really well written with a lot of proof, it got me convinced...
From the Paul...
Suppose we look at the death of Marilyn Monroe this way ...
1. First of all, what kind of pressure could persuade the Los Angeles Coroner's office to knowingly fake a death certificate involving such a famous person?
2. Or cause an LA policeman to "forget" that he pulled over a limo with Robert Kennedy and Peter Lawford inside, for speeding that night and then tell us about it years later, in effect, admitting to concealing evidence in a homicide since Robert Kennedy had denied being there?
3. And force her housekeeper, her housekeeper's son in law and Marilyn's own doctor to hide evidence of murder without fear of prosecution?
4. What could have the power to censor the entire mainstream media from reporting such a sensational story if the pieces didn't fit?
5. Or why didn't any news organization ever admit that Marilyn Monroe had called them to request a news conference for that Monday?
6. What could cause two great, well meaning politicians who both apparently cared about her to allow her to be murdered?
7. Or persuade a famous, well liked actor like Peter Lawford to conceal his direct knowledge of the murder of one of his closest friends?
At this point your saying, "she simply must have committed suicide, because the motive for such a conspiracy would have to be huge!"
Or the murders of Marilyn Monroe, John & Robert Kennedy may have all been for the same reason ... to save us from the certain great harm that our government knew would have been imminent had this secret been revealed. A secret that Marilyn may have gotten from one or both of the Kennedy brothers. And it had to be much bigger than "We are trying to assassinate Castro" wouldn't it?
I can't believe all of the above alleged conspirators had evil intentions. It must have been done to protect us all. Since we are the only super power and the secret is still being kept, ask yourself what could the the press, the police, her doctor, some of her closest friends and the LA Coroner be afraid of for over 40 years?
I suggest that there you will find the real motive for the murders of three of the most loved people of their time who simply thought that you had the right to know the truth.
From the Inje...
Hi, I have been researching MM's death, and I would like to share a few thoughts.
1. If MM had intended to kill herself, she would have made it into a show. She would have worn a white sexy dress, done her makeup and hair, and propped herself up on satin pillows, or some such. She would NOT have arranged to be found the way they say she was found.
2. If MM was killed by a drug enema, as she slipped into unconciousness, her muscles would have relaxed. The enema liquid would have been released from her body, and gotten all over her body and the sheets. I believe THIS is why the housekeeper was found hurriedly washing sheets in the middle of the night, and why MM was naked and in an awkward position.
3. There are too many varied and uninterested people who say Bobby K was in the area, at the house, and then flown out hurriedly by helicopter for him NOT to have been there. So, why would he have been there?
I think she was pregnant, and had had an abortion. I think both Kennedy brothers dumped her suddenly, while she was hoping one or other would marry her.
I think she was also planning to maybe get back with Joe DeMaggio, and she has been rehired to finish her SGTG movie. In no way was she planning to die.
Personally, I believe that what goes around comes around. Look at what happened to both Kennedy brothers. I think they did it. Bobby did it for both of them. Others like the doctors and the housekeeper would have been paid to cover it up.
It's very sad. I'm glad Joe D snubbed Bobby K later in life and that Joe didn't let them come to her funeral.
From the Tiger...
I believe she was murdered, by the Mob or a Kennedy Connection, i do believe Bobby Kennedy had her bumped off because she was in a position where she could have bought down the presidency had she spoken out about her affairs with both the president John Kennedy and his brother. It's also strange that she made a phone-call to Bobby Kennedy shortly before she died, and she'd scheduled a press conference to speak out.
I believe she was in good spirits before her death, due to remarry and start work on a new film project, so i just don't believe she commited suicide, yes she'd tried it before but those were just crys for help and attention, she was starting to pick herself up again, also if she was going to commit suicide she wouldn't have to take the fatal dose as a enema because she wouldn't care what anybody found in her bloodstream once she was dead, the only thing against my theory there is this might have been the only way, as there was no water, and she may have had a lot of trouble swallowing a large amount of pills.
There was also the staged death scene as it's been described, where there was suspicion surrounding the way she was found, all the pill bottles lined up neatly on her bedside table, it's obvious she was killed, this was no accident, and this was no suicide, this as got murder written allover it, i am a huge fan of Marilyn Monroe and have been researching her death for 14 years now, i've watched all of her films, and read her bio, i am extremly interested in getting down to the truth on her final moments, and eventually i will know the truth, i've tried making a few phone-calls, seeing what the odds are on another investigation re-opening and i doubt they will make another, for one the carcus will be in a very disposed state by now, and for two they reached their official conclusion of suicide, they were wrong, i live in hope though that one day someone will come forward, i believe all those accussed of murdering her by various sources are dead now but i also believe atleast ONE Kennedy is still alive today who KNOWS whether John and Bobby were involved in the murder of Marilyn Monroe, or whether they weren't for sure. This Kennedy might speak out and i sincerely hope they do.
From the T.R.E. ...
I think that the Kennedy brothers were afraid that she would expose them to the world how mean, and hateful they were to there exlovers. They didn't want the world to know, so they killed her and made it look like she took her own life. she was starting to get her lfe back in swing of things, decited to tell about the flings, and she was killed because she was telling the truth. T.R.E.
From the Pete...
I believe too many people were trying to calm her down that day. She herself, her 2 doctors, which is documented they administered medication. Perhaps, as well, Lawford, the Kennedy's, and anybody else who went there to stop her actions with the media that upcoming Monday.
Once she showed signs of endangerment, she gets rushed to the hospital, also documented. Then, fear sets in she will spill the truth, and someone in a very high place orders the ambulance to turn around and take her back. Also documented. Once back, she comes to, and perhaps able to speak, is then silenced again, but, now this is too much medication and she passes away.
Too many people, giving her too many meds, all in fear she will say something to someone about something that will get alot of people in trouble. I think the conclusion is an accidental overdose/murder. Which, most records were destroyed.
Thank you. PETE
From the Benjamin...
Here's my theory, as if you care. I honestly feel that due to my research, I can say without conviction that I believe I know what happened to Marilyn. As you will read below, I have compiled a lot of evidence to prove the coroners wrong of their 'probable suicide' ruling. Here goes...
I believe that the Kennedy Brothers did not act alone. Going through medical school, I learned that 6mg of Nembutal is all it takes to be fatal. 7.5mg of chloral hydrate will put someone into a coma. I feel that Dr. Greenson helped the Kennedy's along by giving them such information. Hell, Dr. Greenson could have administered the fatal dosages for that matter. I believe that the Kennedy's paid Dr. Greenson a healthy amount of money to help them take care of their little problem. However, I believe that Eunice Murray had a lot to do with it. I believe Dr. Greenson staged the suicide scene. Having that many drugs in her system, there is no way Ms. Monroe could have even THOUGHT to tidy up her bedroom, let alone lay herself on her bed, stiff as a board. She would have collapsed to the floor. She could have laid herself on the bed and waited for the barbituates to sink in, but I don't believe that happened. Nembutal can be injected into the bloodstream through a syringe, also. Did the coroners happen to look for any needle marks between her fingers or toes? Perhaps under one of her breasts? Probably not. They were probably in on it, too. I believe that Dr. Greenson administered the comatosing dose of chloral hydrate and once she was under, injected her with 7.5mg of Nembutal. He then waited several minutes, and then arranged her body on the bed, with the help of Eunice Murray. Once the deed was complete they waited a few hours so that rigormortis would set in, convincing the police that they had found her that way. That's why Eunice stayed the night eventhough she usually did not, that's why Dr. Greenson was the first person there, and that's why there was never an actual suicide note found. This was not suicide, this was cold blooded murder.
As every other Marilyn fan, I do not believe that Ms. Monroe could have committed suicide. No one can ever say for sure, as we were not there once the body was discovered. But we CAN rely on the facts. Instead of going ALL the way back, I will just use the 1960's, as they are the most relevent. Try this on for size. First off, here's an interesting little piece of information. Eunice Murray, Marilyn's housekeeper, had been given her job upon the recommendation of Dr. Greenson. She had no formal training as a nurse, but he often used her as a companion to patients of his who he felt needed day-to-day support. She did not normally stay overnight at Marilyn's house, but on the night of the star's death she had slept in one of the spare rooms....
#1. After Marilyn was found dead, the police searched unsuccessfully for a suicide note. Though there is some speculation surrounding said note, there was a note found in her room, though there was no reason to suspect suicide.
#2. Earlier in the night, it has been said AND REPORTED that Mrs. Murray (her housekeeper) had heard yelling coming from Ms. Monroe's room. Could she have been yelling at one of the Kennedy's??? Hmm... interesting.
#3. She also received a phone call from Joe Jr., her stepson. He has been reported to say that she did not seem depressed or upset at all. In fact, she sounded happy. This call was supposedly prior to the yelling, screaming call. (Which I will now refer to as the Kennedy call.)
#4. When her body was found, she was laying in what many coroners have called the "Soldier Position". Imagine if you will, the guards outside of Buckingham Palace. Stiff, unable to move, legs straight, arms tightly at your sides. Now... I want EVERYONE to try this. Go stand next to your bed, as straight as you can. Pretend as if you have just taken an overdose of pills. Now, be sure to make time to straighten up the pill bottles, straighten up your bedding, and prepare to make a great staging of your death. Now, since you're standing at the very edge of your bed, fall face first and try to keep your arms and legs as straight as you can. I'll give you a minute............................ That's kind of hard, isn't it? When Marilyn Monroe was found dead, Dr. Greenson and Mrs. Murray both said that she was 'draped nude over her bed'. I have it in writing, right here in front of me. Now, does 'Soldier Position' sound like being 'draped'? Not to me, and not to the multitude of people I have spoken with. Sounds like something was staged...
And finally, #5. Coroner Theodore Curphey announced that the findings of the psychiatric suicide team and the autopsy test done on Marilyn concluded that her death was ruled as a 'Possible Suicide'. Hmm.. Possible? There's nothing possible about suicide. It's either suicide or it's not. The autopsy report on Marilyn concluded that she had died of 'acute barbiturate poisoning - ingestion of overdose". There were no signs of any external violence, but she had 8mg of chloral hydrate (a mild sedative) and 4.5mg of Nembutal in her bloodstream. Wow. That's a lot.
Now, this is only my opinion. If you have any questions or comments, please feel free to contact me at firstname.lastname@example.org. In fact, if you have anything to say about this... let me know. I would like to hear what you think. Thank you.
Marilyn wouldn't of comited suicide because she was happy with where her life was going. And she didn't want to be the sex idol that everyone saw her as she wanted to be taken seriously.
From Lee in WA...
A thought on Marilyn Monroe’s death. We now know that JFK had incurable venereal disease. Probably genital herpes. If he gave this to Marilyn she would surly be infected. If this infection were to come out, her career as a sex symbol would be over, and if it came out that JFK had given it to her, the political repercussions would have been disastrous for all the Kennedy’s. If she was infected, her career was gone and there was a real reason for the Kennedy’s to bury the evidence. Does anyone know the autopsy results concerning a possible Herpes infection?
From the Wilson Family...
Its about time you all abandon your theorys. The actual, actual truth is that she was terribly deppressed, with her insomnia,men and childhood (etc) and everyone knows she dealt with it in drink and drugs. The night she died, she merely took an overdose. She had no intention of dying, but just taking away the pain. Its sad, but true.
From Sonio / Italy...
I suspect that Marilyn Monroe didn't suicide nor murdered, she simply was hidden by the Kennedys, may be in a country in the north of Europe. They put in the home a body of another young woman just dead some hours before and organized all the scenes in a bad way because they had no much time, that why there are a lot of contraddictions in this case. The fact is that the Italian mafia wanted to killed her because she was about to reveal of an agreement between the USA gov and the mafia to keep out of Italy the communists. is there anyone else that can tell more about this theory?
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This subject is deverse everyone has their own thoughts much to an extent, was this suicide a reason to beleive that it was a cover up? I believe so... everything is there i cant see why back then they thought that it could have been suicide yea, her mom had an illness, as so did her brother and grandmother. and yes she may have accedently tooken too many pills in the past but i do beleive that it was murder!!! B/c the high level of bariturates found in Marilyn's liver does suggest that drugs were taken over a period of hours, rather than all in one dose, which proves she didnt commet suiced, and where was the water? there was no water, and the water in the adjoining bathroom was turned off because of work on the plumbing systom. People close to marilyn knew well knew that she could not swallow 50 pills without water or something to drink. Besides everyone has changed there "stories" too many times could people really not see this???????? and Mrs. Murray was busying herself with packing boxes and doing laundry at 3-4 in the morning hmmm was she nervous?? and before they called the police Mrs. Murray called her son-in-law had already been called to repair the broken window.
Sergeant Clemmons went off duty that sunday morning and turned the case over to other officers, he was highly suspicious. By the time the official suicide verdict returned, he was convinced that Marilyn Monroe had been murderd, he remains adamantly convinced today, though refusal to accept the official line in the case cost him his job with the Los Angeles police. and mrs Murray always forgets........... anways i am a big fan of Marilyn Monroe so is a lot of people, please read this book "UNSOLVED" GREAT MYSERIES OF THE 20TH CENTURY, BY KIRK WILSON COPYRIGHT 1990... READ PAGES 129-156 IT TELLS SOME REALLY UNKNOWN FACTS THAT EVERYONE WILL FIND INTERESTING!!!! love lots Jaicee Kaber
Marilyn Monroe was a threat to Bobby Kennedy's race for the presidency. Her psychiatrist was hired by them to serve as the "hit man." He placed the drugs in an enema. Marilyn was comfortable with enemas because she used them frequently as a quick way to lose a few pounds.
Hers was an unhappy childhood. And, she was naive and troubled throughout her entire life. Insecure, the Kennedy's made her feel that her life was headed to where it ought to be. But they, lacking class, used her for sexual gratification and adventure. Then, when it was time for them to pay, they had her murdered by someone whom she felt she could trust.
I was born about 7 to 8 hours following her death so I have always been intrigued by her life and death.
From Viviana of NY...
It is so obvious the Kennedy's killed her. There like a country club mafia. Their Father and grandfather were bootleggers. I would bet all my money that they killed her or had her killed. Marilyn was given an overdose of poison analy which is harder to trace in an autopsy, and I believe that her doctor and maid were in on it. When Marilyn was slipping away she made a call to her doctor for help. He then just called her other doctor, instead of going to check on her. The other doctor that was called then just called Ms. Monroe's house keeper. Who refused to walk down the hall to check on her and assured him that she was fine. And isn't it ironic that Marilyn committed suicide so close to reelection. Which conveniently would take the eye off the affair. This was a horrible crime that the Kennedy's were disgustingly guilty of. Viviana From New York
From Vincent of Pennsylvania...
This is purely my opinion, and should not be taken as anything more than that. As to whether she was murdered or not, I would not want to venture a guess. this much I do believe, however. The Kennedy brothers Jack and Bobby were fond of abusing their power and status to meet their sexual desires. I believe they were both on something of a power trip. more learned historians than myself have uncovered the facts surrounding Jack's many extra marital affairs, and the proof is there for all to see. in the case of Marilyn Monroe, i really feel that they were both guilty of tangling with the wrong woman...this one had a stinger in her tail, and was dangerously close to using it. if there is anything resembling a smoking gun with Marilyn's death, i personally feel it is the phone call she was involved with on the night of her death, with the party on the other end stating that she excused herself for a moment, he heard a disturbance, and Marilyn never returned to the phone. if true, one would wonder why this lead was never investigated. in any event, it was a tragic life that met an untimely and tragic end. "I would have liked to have known you, but i was just a kid."
From Jennifer of Ohio...
I think it truly was her shrink. He was the one who made the statement to the police that she had committed suicide. That would automatically give him a way out.
I read recently that the shrink tried to talk her out of her relationships because he had feelings for her, when he realized she was going to ignore him, he purposely gave her too much of the drugs. It was an obvious cover-up. Didn't they say they found her lying face down in what looked like a staged scene? Makes perfect sense to me.
From Gloria of New Zealand...
The doctor Greenson, took orders from Hoover and Zanuck, the studio head to silence her. Both these men were in Brentwood that night, she died about 4 in the morning.
I dont think Pat Newcomb was involved in this. I remember reading in "The Last Sitting" that she Bert Stern, I believe, or one of the people in that room "What's going to happen to that poor girl?" and then a few weeks later she died.
I think its possible Marilyn was upset about whatever relationships she was having, JFK, Dimaggio, caring about both of them, and maybe she was going to say something but probably only threatened that she would to scare them, then as she thought about it she may have thought negatively that something bad was going to happen to her thats why when she talked on the phone she told someone that they needed to enjoy life while they can, citing that she wouldnt make it out alive in so many words. I think the doctor did it and he may have had help from someone else, like Eunice who did wash the sheets. Either way it was all staged and she had a sense that she was in trouble.
From Louise of Australia...
Hi - I too believe Marilyn was murdered by the Kennedy's and their criminal associates. The Kennedy's were put in power by the criminal elements. Marilyn was intelligent but at the same time incoherent with all the medications prescribed for her, (which many have said were unnecessary). How better to control someone? By Marilyn trusting those caring for her well being and in places of authority, came her undoing. She was exploited by those near to her and loved by her - Kennedy . When she was starting to see her way clear and prepared to tell everything, it was panic stations and she was murdered. Marilyn was taken from this earth and I just hope in heaven she is pleased that her death has not been allowed to rest until the truth is known and recognized as fact and those left with any connections to the murder are brought to justice.
This was clearly a staged murder. The way she was facing on the bed when she was found leads me to believe that she was suffocated. Someone went to great lengths. I strongly believe without a doubt that Robert hired someone to kill Marilyn. He hired somebody in the mafia to do this dastardly deed. RObert was scared Marilyn would come out in a press confernce and "tell the whole story." He couldn't let Marilyn damage his or his brothers political career. Marilyn had nothing to lose. She was a huge star. She had already made it known that she had drug and alcohol problems and psychological issues. Marilyn had more to gain than to lose on this issue. The Kennedy's would be done and over if she had come out and made this allegation. Robert was the man to "handle" the job. Then he was the man to wait for the call that the job was done. SHe was suffocated, then pills were broken into her mouth, or shoved up her backside to carefully hide any association with a murder. It was known that she had numerous mild overdoses. Finding her face down surrounded by pill bottles wouldn't be suprising to any of us. RObert Kennedy was a smart man. He knew he had connections and used them wisely. What he didn't know was that he unleashed a curse in the process. A curse that took it's toll on almost all dominant figures of the Kennedy family.
I am only 13 but i have loved Marilyn Monroe sense i was little i have watch Gentlemen Prefer Blondes like a thousand times and read her bio's i just dont beleive she would kill her self because i know she was having problems but u dont just decide to kill urself with no one knoing u feal u want to right a suicide note or say goodbye to sumone ya kno anyways they have found sumthings about her death that are strange like how the pills where handled and placed u should look into it i am.
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From Tania From Bermuda...
I have seen alot of peoples opinions on this and more than half of them all said Murder with a capital M!!!!!!.......It is so obviuos she was murder but what we all want to know is how & by who?
I think the kenndeys got people marilyn knows to do their 'dirty work' I would shot those bastards myself! I think my theroy makes perfect sense although im only 15! ive dedaced my life to figuring out this wonderful womens death i will not be at peace until i have 100% asurencce. ----> Marilyn was happy at the time of her death she had no reason to kill her self and there was no water in her house for her to swallow 50 pills....please tell me how someone can swallow 50 pills with NO water.........also when u overdose ur body goes into a fetus postion and marilyn was clearly placed in a staged postion<------so that strikes the overdose theroy and also the accidental beacuse their was evidence of that........Now MURDER.,,,,YUP!! the kennedys knew that marilyn was going to release some info.......They couldnt let that happen so what they did was got her DR. to inject those barbicthuates in her(he had come over that day for a 90min session)
Then they got her maid Unice to cover up the scence......because it was around 12am that marilyn was dead so why is that the maid was washing marilyns sheets at 2am in the morning.,????????? And she called the police oreder them to go back and called them to return again.......hmmmmm.......I know you understand what im trying to say.....Also marilyn had fired her maid that day at like 5pm (there is proof of that with a check marilyn wrote)so if she was fired why was she washing her sheets at 2 in the morning>???? And why is that this wasnt even take to charge as a murder case?? This death left a big whole in the heart of the world.....Why would anyone kill a sweet angel sent down to entertain us??????? i just wish they will reopen this case now that we have more technology and things like that.......I want them to anouce to the world the TRUTH!!!!!
From Shellie in Arizona...
I have just been reading your latest posting from an Amanda in North Carolina who claims to have been researching Marilyn Monroe’s death since 1992. I have a few things to say to that person. Marilyn Monroe’s autopsy report totally contradicts everything that you have said. So for those of us who have “half baked” theories, our theories are at least based on FACT. Something that is totally missing from your statement. Let me start by stating that Marilyn did die of a barbiturate overdose. That is true. According to the autopsy report and pharmacology report, she had no evidence of pills in her stomach nor in her intestine. It is a well known fact that if someone dies from an unintentional or intentional pill overdose there will be evidence of the pills in their upper G/I tract. There was none in hers. No crystals from the outer casings of the pills, nothing.
Her liver was the organ that had the highest amount of barbiturates. That could mean one of two things, she either was injected with the drug (which is probably unlikely due to the fact that the autopsy stated there were no needle marks) or she was given the drug rectally. Something I’m sure Marilyn just wouldn’t have done. She was too dramatic. If she were going to commit suicide, she would have done so in a big way. The sightings of Bobby Kennedy in and around her home during the 1 hour of missing time have been verified over and over again. A few of the residents that saw Bobby Kennedy entering Marilyn’s home are still alive today and swear by their convictions. The bottom line is this. It is pretty clear that she did not commit suicide. People who commit suicide usually follow a pattern. There was no pattern here. Whether or not she died at the hands of the Kennedys or died as a result of an accidental overdose by her Physician (who consequently had given her a shot of barbiturate and chloral hydrate in the same afternoon) the fact remains the same. She is gone and we all missed out on a beautiful human being! I just think that if one is going to spout of their “findings” after 11 years then that person should know the undisputable facts! I have been a devoted Marilyn fan since 1986 and I believe in one thing….Marilyn was a beautiful person inside and out!
I do believe that she was murdered, either by the Kennedy's (both of whom were killed, also), or another member of the mafia. She had plans for the Monday after the Sunday that she died. Why would she kill herself? She certainly was not the 'slut' that everyone made her out to be. You know how Sinatra had ties to the mafia? Well, he had given Marilyn a dog, that she appropriately named "Maf." Did she know of Sinatra's association with the mafia? Did she have a reason to commit suicide? No. She was to begin filming for another movie weeks after her death. Sure she was depressed...who in Hollywood wouldn't be? But, I don't think she was depressed enough to kill herself.
From Danielle of Maryland...
I have been interested in the life (and death) of Marilyn Monroe for some time now. I was in a bookstore a few years ago, and came across the best book on the topic. It's titled "MARILYN, THE LAST TAKE" written by Peter Harry Brown, and Patte B. Barham. It is a MUST READ for people who trully want an insight into the topic. I've read it five times - and it has definitly led me to believe that she was a murder victim - at the hands of the Kennedy's. I wonder if she would have kept her secrets to herself, not talking so much to others, and then not threatening to come forward - if we would have had Miss Monroe for longer. She did not deserve her demise, but it leaves you wondering "What If ?" - Danielle from Maryland